Messages posted by: Oscar

Professor wrote:Thats not even what I meant, Ray saying he doesnt care if the Jews were nearly wiped out in the first place, not just about the results of stopping Hitler.

Nearly wiped out? As if. And define what you mean by Jews, as you are stereotyping them as insignificant figures that simply died when in fact there were also groups of Jewish rebels in WWII who chose to hide in forest areas and ambush the Germans for their survival and for freedom of other Jews who needed help escaping so essentially the rebels instead of constantly running decided to attack the Germans so yes their deaths were beneficial as in the end they managed to save alot of other Jews from the Germans, and of course the ones that couldn't escape and weren't lucky enough to be saved were very unlucky to have been killed without a chance of surviving, their lives were missed but what can you do about it but forget them and try and save the rest? Mourning is wasting time that you could spend being happy and enjoying yourself or doing something to benefit others, in the end alot more lives were saved than were lost by people saying fuck that and acting against the Germans.

Professor wrote:

Oscar wrote:

Professor wrote:Your just wierd, you'll probably go postal and kill innocent people for no good reason.

What for him not caring that millions of people were killed to prevent millions more people from suffering? He justified his opinion, he doesn't care that people that he didn't know died. Why insult him for having an opinion that many people share? Which infact denies that he is "weird" as there are plenty of people with the same opinion.

What are you suggesting? Jews were killed for the benefit of others? If thats what you think your even sicker than Ray

Yes, I am suggesting that, but that is only a small part of what I'm saying. What I am saying and if you read carefully you may be able to understand and reply to exactly what I'm saying, is that all the deaths WWI and WWII benefited everyone in Europe today as if they didn't die and kill Hitler's troops in return then Europe would be fucked up and run by a Tyrant and we'd be speaking German. And if you're going to say that it is still wrong then you're delivering a very hard kick in the balls to the people that fought and the ones that died as they volunteered as they knew that they were dying for a good cause, and the civilians that died were just unlucky to get caught up in it all, but I'm sure if there is a heaven/hell then they will be happy in knowing that the ammunition wasted on them helped benefit Europe including their families for many years. If you're against war then you're basically saying that Hitler should have been allowed to shoot as many Jews as he wanted and take over Europe without any resistance.

Professor wrote:Your just wierd, you'll probably go postal and kill innocent people for no good reason.

What for him not caring that millions of people were killed to prevent millions more people from suffering? He justified his opinion, he doesn't care that people that he didn't know died. Why insult him for having an opinion that many people share? Which infact denies that he is "weird" as there are plenty of people with the same opinion.

Just to show you what I've done, I've added shorts etc but still pretty basic atm, looking tacky but the annoying partis done. Gonna try and make the boots and shorts models look nicer as atm they look pretty chunky and ugly then work on the texture.

So you now want it as one single mesh?

Mikkel wrote:
But why split head from mainbody ? if you use makehuman ull just have one big mesh to start out with..then u can change to different faces using the same body.

IF u use "blender" you can decimate the mesh, I tried it and it took 70% polygons off without changing much of the detail. Makehuman creates one of the cleanest mesh, compared to others like poser. But do it your own way I'm just giving the little advice I can in this area.
Yeah know about supreme boxers, I think its the same people running it as vivi.com.

Congrats on the tournament result fatny, does that mean ull donate something to OB ?

I thought you wanted the head split from the main body? And yeah you can do the same thing on this program but if it's not as good I've got Blender aswell so I can always switch over. I've split it all up already and added shorts, gloves and boots so just trying to get the textures to look nice atm.

And Reaper I had the trial but it just kills my computer when it's on, and I couldn't get used to it really. Might try it again after my exams. This programs still pretty good people come up with stuff like this.

Should be pretty simple then just splitting the head from the main body and adding shorts, boots and gloves. I'll start fiddling with it now. By the way that Supreme boxing has opened up, it's not as I expected though it's basically a mix of vivi.com but with one boxer, no gameplay or anything just turn based.

So all you want seperated is the head and body as in :-

O and <-<

So arms and everything can be included as the body?

P.s you may want to delete the ring titans link.

Ray Johnson wrote:

catfish2 wrote:looks like i've really overestimated some people.

Explain?

What's with you people leaving half-finished statements. If you're gonna insult me, insult me fully. If you want to make half a statement just don't reply at all.

E.g.

P - You're a dick.
E - "I don't care one bit about those people who died."
E - Being inconsiderate about people's lives makes you a heartless prick.

I still love you though.

Off topic, on the 2D site has anyone else realised that the "ring titans" link directs you to a porn site?

Ray Johnson wrote:Oscar has a point, if there was no war Hitler would have taken over Europe and we would be speaking German o_O

No, Hitler wouldn't have invaded anywhere as he wouldn't start a war, but he'd have certainly been free to selectively choose what goes in Germany though, meaning he'd probably have had sooo many people shot due to his beliefs, but no one would act as it would seem crazy to start war.

Sure the actual fighting and killing involved in war is terrible but in the long term it's helped build a better world, for example the following wouldn't exist at all without war :-

- Resistance against corrupt leaders.
- Any sports involving physical contact, even sports like basketball would be seen as brutal and the roughest sport would be golf/netball.
- All war films/games.
- People like Alexander, Julius Caesar, Ghengis Khan, Themistocles wouldn't have had a chance to change a large proportion of the world for the better.
- If you think of all the technology that the Romans brought to the world that dramatically improved many peoples lives and even though they were involved in sooo many wars they also prevented many more by making the world a more civilized place, their empire was the first big step in making the world as peaceful as it is today.
- The fact that women find men that are well built more attractive than weak and skinny men would most likely not exist as it originated from women going for the men that were the strongest were the most effective in battle, so we'd have a world of skinny weak men.
- Multi-cultural communities.
- Forms of martial arts that are performed for entertainment purposes.

And remember without war people would barely appreciate peace.

Without war the world would be very boring. Boxing/MMA wouldn't exist, all war games and film wouldn't exist, people like Hitler would have faced no opposition and would be free to do whatever. Still war is pretty shit as it drags people who clearly have no desire to fight and makes them target practice, but when you think about it war tests peoples ability to cope with fear and pain and some of history's idols were made because of a war so you shouldn't be so pessimistic about it. Modern war is pretty pointless though, due to most of it being fought with explosions and computers. As the Spartans believed, fighting with ranged weapons is for cowards, and that's pretty much every aspect of war now.

I could but it'll come out pretty weird, I'll have a fiddle about with it tonight.

EDIT: This is what I mean

I've split all the bits into sections, gonna try and round them off so there isn't any holes like that ^.

Yeah but it's all one single mesh and you wanted it in seperate bits or does it not matter anymore?

Lmao at that Fatny. I tried 3ds max and didn't really like it, AC3D is proper lightweight and you can still get good models from it.

:O Nice stuff!

I'm using AC3D atm and photoshop for texture, still have no idea how to map properly though. I can proudly say that I've matched if not bettered Runescape modelers though

(Unless they created the shit models on purpose).

You're lucky that you have friends into the same stuff, no one round here is interested in anything but using a photo filter for their myspace poses.